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Friday, 20 May 2005

Last time we discussed baptism we offered up brother Rory’s contention that salvation is impossible without the rite of baptism. One of the texts he used in support of this baptism being salvific was Ephesians 4:4-5 illustrating this point of One baptism being for the forgiveness of sins. My first post started to question the usage Ephesians 4 as this defense and in this post I will explore the different baptisms mentioned in Scripture.

Why look at different baptisms?
Well, I think it’s important to rightly divide what the Scriptures are saying. Not in the sense that we decide where the division is by putting numbers down, but God has decided to have each of these forty something authors write with a purpose and a burden on their heart. We study looking at the intent of the writer and we start to garner and understanding of where God draws lines in Scripture. Be that as it may, baptism is covered broadly throughout the New Testament and if a person truly wants a course on the practice, they can study the book of Acts.

Baptism was not brought by Christians.
Yep, that’s right, Christ told His disciples to go and baptize but His followers were not the originators of the concept of baptism. In fact the writer to the Hebrews (chapter 6) would warn his readers, professing Jews no doubt, were told to move onwards, progressing from what they knew: the teachings of the Messiah, the teachings of repentance from dead works and of faith towards God, of instruction about washings (the word is the one for baptisms) and of the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead and the eternal judgment. These are all things that weren’t brought newly by Christians but were long established and taught in Judaism. The point in Hebrews is that the Christ had come…He was no longer a teaching but was physically manifested...progress from the shadows and move on to the reality.

Baptism of John
John was baptizing long before Christ’s disciples were and this is where I would actually like to start looking at these different baptisms in detail. Matthew 3:5-8 tells us that John was baptizing folk with water in Judea in the district where the Jordan passed through. This baptism is described as being done with several seemingly disparate purposes. Verse 6 tells us that the people did this while confessing their sins. Luke 7:29 would tell us that the people (in this case including tax collectors) were justifying God—or the NASB would say “acknowledging God’s justice”. One purpose completely Man focused and the other completely God focused? No, for John explains what the people were doing back in Matthew 3:11. He was baptizing with water for repentance. There’s the connection then. The confessing of sins wasn’t merely letting loose the conscience but it consisted of saying “God you are completely right about me…I’m a sinner and I am sorry.” A baptism of water for repentance.

Well that’s the gospel right? Repent and be baptized? Well not really because in the book of Acts 19:3,4 we have a case of some folk who have partaken of the baptism of John, this baptism specifically of repentance which justified God—but who had as of yet not received the Holy Spirit. Why? We’ll have to hit on that at a later date, but if anything this should establish in our thinking that Repenting and Baptism doesn’t make a person a Temple of the Living God.

Baptism With Fire
Interesting that in Matthew 3:11 we hear mention of two other baptisms. He mentions one who is coming after him who would baptize with the Spirit and with fire. We’ll deal with the later first.

What is this baptism with fire? I submit to you that it is the very fiery indignation of God by which He would judge the world. Who was condemnation given over to? Why the very Son was given that power and He would return, as the rightful ruler of this world and would come to trample the winepress. A point that Peter makes sure to establish in Acts 2 when he preaches on the prophecy of Joel and the Last Days. Thankfully, John kept the order of the baptisms and God has decided to record that for our comfort (and for the sake of the listeners during Pentecost). Baptism of the Spirit is to come first. You can also check out Romans 8 and the book of Revelations to see Christ as judge and executor.

Baptism With the Spirit
Here I may have some disagreement with (countless) others over the actual baptism. The theologian (who knows much more than me) will say that the baptism is done by the Holy Spirit by placing believers in Christ and so forth. I say that Christ does the baptizing with the agent of the Holy Spirit. In other words John would baptize folks by dipping them in water, Christ would baptize folks by dipping them in the Holy Spirit which was poured out on Pentecost, specifically. I base my reasoning for this on those comparative statements by John and Christ (Matt 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33, Acts 1:5). A nitpicky distinction, I guess.

Be that as it may it still occurred during Pentecost (Acts 2) as a prequel to the baptism by fire that would come at a later date. (Read the book of Joel for more info.) What’s interesting about this baptism with the Spirit is that it seems to have little to do with water. For instance, in Acts 2 the believers who were there were surely all baptized in water—but that was some time ago. When they were baptized earlier it wasn’t with the outpouring of the Spirit as on this day. In fact, in Acts 10 (v 44 – 48 specifically) we’ll see Peter preaching to some Gentiles and him and his circumcised crew witness the Spirit being poured out on them as well, hearing them exalt God in tongues. When he realized what had just happened he quickly asked for some water to baptize these people. We’ll see why he was so eager to do this inthe next post, but for now it’s safe to say that the water had nothing to do with the being put into the One Body and the One Spirit mentioned in Ephesians 4.

The Full Series
1. Baptism Necessary for Salvation?
2. One Baptism Versus the Many?
3. Baptism and Big Problems
4. Baptismal Regeneration (Acts 2:28)
5. Deluge of Baptism Questions (Acts 1-22)
6. Baptism and Romans (Rom 6:1-11)
7. Noah and Baptism (2 Peter 3:20,21)
8. Paul On Baptism (1 Cor 1:14-18)
9. The Error of Infant Baptism
10. Remember Your Baptism (Rom 6:1-11)
Related
Russ On Baptism
Baptism of Linkage

This has already gone longer than expected but God willing you’re already noticing what role water is playing (and not playing) in the previous examples. In the next post we’ll still be looking at some more Biblical baptisms and likely the questions that some of us may be asking might start to get bigger question marks. :)

-r-



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written by Rey, June 25, 2005
Written by david on 2005-05-20 14:34:14
So far, so good, Rey. I'm not sure about this,

The theologian (who knows much more than me) will say that the baptism is done by the Holy Spirit by placing believers in Christ and so forth. I say that Christ does the baptizing with the agent of the Holy Spirit.

but I think you've escaped the heretic tag so far.

Written by biblerey on 2005-05-20 14:50:19
Yeah, I figured folk wouldn't swallow that one even and it mostly has to do with making a Person an Agent. It's a problem that I had to deal with myself because Water is Not Alive so to speak and the Holy Spirit is very much alive. There are many other issues involved in my thinking the Spirit is the agent but it'll probably have to happen in its own post. smilies/sad.gif
I'm sure the heretic tag isn't too far out of reach just yet though. heh heh.

Written by david on 2005-05-20 18:04:05
I didn't mean you were wrong, just that I'm sceptical. You should explain it further, as you said, in another post. Then I'll be able to say conclusively that you're wrong!

Written by biblerey on 2005-05-20 18:16:47
:p :grin

Written by Klompman on 2005-05-22 09:09:28
This is an interesting subject. I think the overall teaching of the NT is for believer's baptism: "John came ... preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins" Mk 1:4. I believe baptism sybolizes identification with Christ: "buried with Him in baptism" Col 2:12.

But then there are other verses that may confuse us: "baptism does also now save us" 1Pe 3:21 but baptism is not a sole condition: "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved" since the emphasis is still on believing: "but he who does not believe will be condemned. Mk 16:16

Written by William Meisheid on 2005-05-22 12:13:04
Saying there is one baptism - the Ephesians passage - doesn't mean it is necessary for salvation (e.g. the thief on the cross and many, if not all OT saints). Instead you can only argue from that statement that for those who come to salvation there is only one baptism that matters, just like there is only one Lord and one Faith.
What I find most depressing in Christianity is how all of us at times read our aprioris into the text rather than letting the text speak to and modify our aprioris.

Written by biblerey on 2005-05-22 12:43:36
Definitely a logical falacy and I had to run with it to try to illustrate which baptism mattered. As it stands Rory seems to be saying that Water Baptism is the Saving Baptism and the Only Baptism that matters to result in Salvation. Brother Klompman, those are passages that Rory used to support his argument.
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