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Wednesday, 08 June 2005

Anyone who has been following the study should notice a few things. Firstly, the method is a variation of my (now) usual method of studying. I’m ignoring the role of the specific baptismal narratives within the context of the letter. For instance, that huge list of questions for each specific baptismal event in the book of Acts largely ignored the greater question of the reason those stories were even put into Luke’s letter anyway. My approach here has been closer to systematic theology in that I have gathered the baptismal stories and usage and then have put them next to each other to study them.

Secondly, although much was gathered some things were glaringly obvious—even with all our questions.  The general texture of the narratives did not support the idea of baptism resulting in regeneration. The general texture of the narratives seemed to tie baptism to repentance and to belief. Although all the narratives necessitated the performance of baptism by the believer none of the narratives (in context) ever stated the idea of baptism as necessary for salvation.

Thirdly, the baptismal events alone would force some things into ambiguity: such as making a differentiation between repentance and belief and between the baptism of Jews and the baptism of Gentiles. The baptismal stories never support infant baptism (nor do they outright deny it), they never support the baptism of unbelievers (nor do they outright deny it), they never indicate joining a covenant community (nor do they outright deny it).

Therein lays the general fault of an unaltered systematic methodology…we could easily start forcing theological ideologies into the text.. So if we spent our time looking at only Acts 2:38 we would have been in quite a hole—but thankfully we stretched out of the confines of the single verse and tapped the context about it.

With this passage (and the rest of the epistolary passages going forward) I will try to focus on the context and then the verses in question. If you wish, call it a personal fault arising from my heretical nature. Some folk may want to take all the juice out of the single verse and then branch out to see what the rest of the tree tastes like…I would much rather like to see what kind of tree it is and what the fruit are within it, then taste it with proper understanding.

Romans and Baptism.
Paul has thus far established the argument of the righteous living by faith. The statement has the dual purpose of showing God’s action in assuring salvation (not only peace with God, but the renewing of the mind, renewing of the body, and evidenced in action through faith and by faith) and Man’s great benefit in this given righteousness (no wrath from God, no death, no rule by sin and evidenced as love). The dual point is carried throughout the letter to the Romans (readily admitted although my personal series focuses on God’s righteousness defended).

Romans 1 reveals God’s wrath on unrighteous Men. Romans 2 reveals God’s wrath on those who align themselves morally with God and yet do the same as the heathen. Likewise, Romans 2 also addresses the Jew as benefiting from the Law yet still culpable for his action. Romans 3 explains how all men are personally guilty sinners before God. The entire man is portrayed as a desperately sick, morally wounded, actively wicked and passively aggressive. Romans 3 also gives us the idea that beneath God’s righteous Law all men receive the death penalty but God has come up with a way for the unrighteous to be saved…through faith by the death of the Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 4 supplies the argument that credited righteousness by faith is no new thing and has been evidenced in the life of Abraham (and David). Romans 5 starts to show how upon faith man has been justified, has peace with God, can exult in tribulations knowing the end result.

Romans 5 also shows us the problem that men still die and the whole race has been plummeted into this very sad situation but God’s grace through the free gift of Christ on the cross super-abounds over the curse of Adam. The curse resulted in super-grace so what does that mean to the individual?

In Romans 6:1-11 Paul has to start defining what it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean, does it, that we’re now to continue in sin so that there’s even more grace? Vehemently no—we died to sin…how can we continue to live in it? How did we die to sin? Believers are after all capable of sinning (and I remember some of those folk in Corinth, blessed saints, falling into all types of gross immorality) so what does Paul mean that we have died?

Paul states those who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death. Is the text is speaking of an actual mystical union where the believer is somehow slain on the cross with Christ and therefore dies? Is the text speaking of a legal positioning of the believer?

Paul states that we have been buried with Christ through baptism then starts using terms which are largely analogical: ‘So that as Christ was raised’ or ‘likeness of his resurrection’ and then later ‘knowing this’ and ‘knowing that’.  This is the standard structure of an analogy. For example: “Just as Moses raised the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up and so…” It is striking that Romans 6 is speaking of a spiritual truth but the spiritual truth is not performed by baptism…but rather pictured with baptism.

The believer is baptized into Christ Jesus. This is nothing new; we’ve seen it repeated oft-times in the book of Acts. (The form of the baptism could have been “I baptize you by the authority of Christ Jesus in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost” so the statement doesn’t deny anything.) In this action he is pictured as dying in Christ, buried with Him and raised up again to walk in newness of life. Our entire person was killed…not so much literally on the cross, but positionally by what Christ has done. We can see the legal language evidenced by Romans 3 and Romans 5. The believer has legally died to sin. The account has been satisfied by Christ who has died.

So Romans 6 is not dealing with water baptism resulting in being placed in Christ (if that were the case it would deny all these texts: Romans 1:17; Romans 3:28, 30; Rom 4:16; Rom 5:1, 2; Rom 9:30; Rom 10:9

 -r-

The Full Series
1. Baptism Necessary for Salvation?
2. One Baptism Versus the Many?
3. Baptism and Big Problems
4. Baptismal Regeneration (Acts 2:28)
5. Deluge of Baptism Questions (Acts 1-22)
6. Baptism and Romans (Rom 6:1-11)
7. Noah and Baptism (2 Peter 3:20,21)
8. Paul On Baptism (1 Cor 1:14-18)
9. The Error of Infant Baptism
10. Remember Your Baptism (Rom 6:1-11)
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Russ On Baptism
Baptism of Linkage

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written by Rey, June 25, 2005
Written by Shane on 2005-06-13 18:29:49"The baptismal stories never support infant baptism (nor do they outright deny it), they never support the baptism of unbelievers (nor do they outright deny it), they never indicate joining a covenant community (nor do they outright deny it"

I may reading this out of context, but I don't understand the ambiguity?
1.) I am not sure why anyone we even look for a verse "denying" infant baptism as this was not a Jewish teaching. Infant baptism came some time after the replacement theology catholic dogma, centuries after the scriptures were written. Intitially, even the catholics immersed.

2.) Baptism in itself is for the believer and many verses say to believe and be baptized. Therefore why would Scripture have to deny such a practice?
(Although Constantine baptized armies of Pagans... )

3.) I think every example of baptism is joinging a covenant. You are baptized believing in Messiah. And "if ye be Messiah's then ye be Avraham's seed and heir to the promise". It is a symbol of this.
Just some thoughts there, I may not have been reading your point correctly.

So many folks look for Scriptures to support their denominational beliefs. I view this as an infinite loop of futility. The Scriptures were written in a Jewish context/Faith and would not directly support Calvinism, Catholicism, Methodist, SDA, etc.

Instead we should go to the Scriptures seeking His truth as the Bareans did. And they used the "Old Testament".
Written by biblerey on 2005-06-13 18:30:02You're question on the ambiguity is probably directly related to the rest of the series. My purpose is to look at Baptism as spoken of in Scripture to disprove (firstly) baptismal justification then baptismal regeneration and along the way I intend to show how baptism of the dead and infant baptism are also wrong. The Scriptures were definitely written in a Jewish context and that's why I spent so much time bridging Acts 2:38 (an oft-used proof-text) to the Jewish community.

So if anything, the ambiguity is connected to me starting to cover my flank and simultaneously opening the door for later considerations when folk start saying "Households were baptized so that surely means infants were baptized in that household". It's an unwarranted conclusion and therefore I would want to highlight before I get there that there's nothing in the text that supports the thesis.

Lastly, there is nothing in those specific events that denies Infant baptism either. This is where I would see a systematic study on baptism alone starts to fall short. That's why I started a contextual argument drawing on the flow of Romans and culminating in Romans 6.
Written by Shane on 2005-06-13 18:29:35"Households were baptized" in itself seems to be those that should be baptized. It seems all inclusive would be just as unwarranted. My point being that it is the catholics that introduced infant baptism and this goes against the Jewish teachings of baptism.

Just as you will find nothing that teaches "against" sprinkling, but at the same time it cannot be supported. You cannot disprove a doctrine directly that was created hundreds of years later. In other words, how would the Bareans prove or disprove through Scripture a practice which would not exist until centuries later?


Written by biblerey on 2005-06-10 16:53:30good point and completely correct. And yet, many many believers still practice it and defend it. Jollyblogger did a series defending it and he's Protestant.

Good thing I won't be argueing to outright disprove the practice, but showing that the practice has no true Biblical support. In saying yes to infant baptism they have strayed from sola-scriptura. They would surely disagree but I think it's as clear as day...infant baptism is a doctrine of Men. They would try to argue that the Trinity is never mentioned in the Scriptures and they'd be off.
Written by Shane on 2005-06-13 18:30:27Amen, amen!

P.S. Name is me. DOH!
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